Monday, 22 June 2009

Re: Code of Conduct Complaint

Dear Mike

 Thank you for your reply of June 15th. I am about to go away for 10 days, so this response covers only the main points.

 Assessment sub-committee make-up

I said to you, "Following your remarks, it seems to me (and to those I've discussed this with) that if any member of the Assessment Sub-Committee was party to the Taff Davies' business, or was a member of the Conservative party whilst that was going on, it would be quite inappropriate for them to participate in considering anything involving me, given the political brouhaha and embarrassment that it caused."

 You said to me " In view of your concerns about District Councillors being members of the Conservative party, I will ask that this is taken into account if the Assessment Sub-Committee is convened."

 I've emphasised in green the bit that I don't think is addressed by your remark. My concern about Conservative party members is about any Conservatives who might not have been on or involved with the Council when the Taff Davies witch hunt was going on, but would have known what was happening.

 WWPC Working Parties

 A full analysis of the note from Joanne will run to many pages but Gatwick beckons, as indicated above. Its contents sit somewhere on the spectrum from sophistry to disingenuous non-sense.

Overall my primary concerns, and those of many members of the public, are as follows:

  •  It isn't good enough to claim that everything has been done according to 'the rules,' if actual conduct/procedures are clearly established to work around them – c.f. MPs expenses row
  •  It isn't acceptable for the Parish Council to decide that the provisions of the Local Government Act are too complicated, or expensive, or onerous, or boring, for a humble Parish Council to implement them; and to decide therefore to ignore them. 
  • The notion that the only matter of legal, ethical or democratic relevance is that 'decisions' should be reached in public is tantamount to saying, conversely, that the process by which those decisions have been reached is one that the public and press have no right of access to.
  • These concerns are matters on which Members should be giving a lead, and in particular The Chairman.

So far as the actual Working Parties are concerned I refer to my list in Appendix A of my complaint – modified as shown to match the list provided by Joanne, and with extra columns

List of WWPC Working Parties @ 7th May 2009           Membership

Working Party

Mems

Actual

CDC Comp

1.                   Footpaths and Open Spaces

3

5

27

2.                   Allotments

3

5

27

3.                   Sportsfield Management and Millennium Meadow

3

5

27

4.                   Footway Lighting

2

4

21

5.                   Emergency Planning

2

4

21

6.                   Transport

2

4

21

7.                   Poor Sevens Trustee

1

3

16

8.                   Tree Warden

1

3

16

9.                   Pavilion

3

5

27

10.               Snowhill

2

4

21

11.               Finance

3

5

27

12.               Twinning

1

3

16

13.               Coastal Defence

3

5

27

14.               Communications

3

5

27

The Chairman and Deputy Chairman are ex officio members of all Working Parties.

The Actual column shows the real number of members of each Working Party. The CDC Comparison column shows how many Members of CDC would be on each Working Party, if CDC ran a similar 'system.' As I have said before, any Working Party which has as its membership the majority of the Council is, de facto, acting as if it were the Council whenever and wherever it takes a decision by consensus - that's Working Parties: 1,2,3,11,13,14. Imagine what it would be like if CDC were running Working Parties with the kind of numbers in the CDC Comp column.

In the limited time I have available today:

"Working parties are ad hoc arrangements, with no specified terms of reference," however they are appointed on an annual basis, and are invited to report at every meeting (as a major part of the agenda), and in the eyes of the public are quite clearly the vehicle by which the majority of the Council's business is conducted. So much for Ad hoc.

It is interesting to note that although the official position is that only the Chairman and Deputy Chairman are ex offcio members of each Working Party, "any member can attend and take on work of any Working Party at any time which allows all members to participate if they so chose." In other words all Members are, at their own discretion, members of all Working Parties, so the 'official' numbers don't really mean anything. It is precisely this profound lack of clarity, and its implicit undermining of the principles of openness, transparency and accountability that is so disturbing about these arrangements.

There is a great deal more that could, and in due course will be said about the description of working parties you have received from Joanne.

Finally, you say: "The Board has advised me that failure to comply with the general principles does not equate to failure to comply with paragraphs of the code of conduct.  Instead it is essential to have regard to all of the particular circumstances of the conduct in order to determine whether a paragraph of the code has been broken, and the general principles can be used as an appropriate benchmark of good conduct."

This is interesting information, and I am pleased to have it confirmed from someone at the top of the code of conduct food chain, that my utilisation of the General Principles as a benchmark of good conduct was correct.

I look forward to hearing from the Deputy Monitoring Officer.

Wbw

 David Hopson

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2009/6/15 Mike Kelley <mjkelley@chichester.gov.uk>

Dear Councillor Hopson

Further to my email of 8th June 2009, I enclose a copy of the response I have received from the Clerk of West Wittering Parish Council explaining the nature of the "working parties" which the Parish Council has established for the current municipal year.

It appears from her email that they are not working parties or committees in the traditional sense, for example, a meeting of councillors in a room. Instead some are appointments of a single councillor to an outside organisation or to undertake routine inspections or enquiries on behalf of the Council, and others are the names of councillors who can be called upon by the Council meeting as and when required during the municipal year to investigate matters in a given subject area and to report back on their findings so that the Council can make a decision on the issue at a public meeting.

... See earlier post at wwpcmailstore.blogspot.com

Evidence supporting Hopson's resignation

Having been denied equal access to the SALC advice, you might be interested in the correspondence evidence that I will adduce in support of my position.

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Tuesday, 16 June 2009

Re: FOI request

Following correspondence with WhatDoTheyKnow.com, please see the following post and comments on their website - http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/extraordinary_council_meeting_of#outgoing-24705

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2009/6/15 JOANNE BROWN <wwpc@redhouse100.freeserve.co.uk>

Dear David,

 

Further to my e mail dated 12th June 2006 I confirm that there will not be any charge for providing the information requested.

 

I am currently collating this and will contact you again when it is to hand.

 

Regards

 

Joanne


Monday, 15 June 2009

Re: Code of Conduct Complaint

Dear Councillor Hopson

Further to my email of 8th June 2009, I enclose a copy of the response I have received from the Clerk of West Wittering Parish Council explaining the nature of the "working parties" which the Parish Council has established for the current municipal year.

It appears from her email that they are not working parties or committees in the traditional sense, for example, a meeting of councillors in a room. Instead some are appointments of a single councillor to an outside organisation or to undertake routine inspections or enquiries on behalf of the Council, and others are the names of councillors who can be called upon by the Council meeting as and when required during the municipal year to investigate matters in a given subject area and to report back on their findings so that the Council can make a decision on the issue at a public meeting.

Your complaint dated 11th May 2009 asserts that the Chairman has breached some of the general principles of conduct and in consequence he has breached Article 5 of the Code of Conduct. I have sought advice on this from the Standards Board for England, as it is in my experience unusual for complaints to be founded on alleged contraventions of the general principles.

The Board has advised me that failure to comply with the general principles does not equate to failure to comply with paragraphs of the code of conduct.  Instead it is essential to have regard to all of the particular circumstances of the conduct in order to determine whether a paragraph of the code has been broken, and the general principles can be used as an appropriate benchmark of good conduct.

With reference to your letter of the 29th May 2009, I would comment as follows:-

Private and Confidential

The reason my letter of 21st May 2009 was headed private and confidential was because I am instructed by the Standards Committee not to reveal to the accused councillor that a formal complaint has been received until after the Assessment Sub-Committee has considered the matter. So I mark my initial letters to the complainant and potential witnesses in this way, but it is a matter for yourself whether or not you respect its confidentiality.

Deputy Monitoring Officer

I will be passing the papers to the Deputy Monitoring Officer if you still wish to pursue the complaint against Councillor Hutton.

Standards Committee/Sub-Committee Membership

The membership of the Standards Committee was approved by the District Council’s Annual Council Meeting on 19th May 2009 as follows:-

Representing Chichester District Council:-

Councillors R.H. Field (Conservative), A.G.F. Moss (Liberal Democrat) and D.J. Myers (Conservative)

Representing parish councils:-

Councillors J. Cottam (Fernhurst Parish Council), C. Heasman (Donnington Parish Council) and D. Ribbens (Plaistow and Ifold Parish Council)

Independent members:-

Mr. C. Evans, Mr. A. Ryan and Mr. C. Wood.

As I have indicated previously the membership of the sub-committees is determined by rota and depends on their availability and that they are not conflicted out of a particular case. In view of your concerns about District Councillors being members of the Conservative party, I will ask that this is taken into account if the Assessment Sub-Committee is convened.

Working Parties

You state in your letter of 29th May that you have not asserted that it is unlawful for parish councils to set up working parties.

The impression given in your complaint of 11th May is that you are opposed to working parties per se, and opposed to the West Wittering Parish Council method of working parties in particular. For example, you state "there is no provision in law which sanctions the use of working parties….".

However, thank you for clarifying that it is the type of "working parties" set up by the Parish Council which you object to.

Working parties and forums established by the District Council have terms of reference, some meet in private, and the outcome of their deliberations is usually reported to the Executive Board or other appropriate committee.

 

Would you please consider the information provided by the Parish Clerk and my comments gilven above, and let me know if you still wish to pursue your complaint against Councillor Hutton. If so, I will pass the matter to the Deputy Monitoring Officer to arrange for a meeting of the Assessment Sub-Committee.

Yours sincerely

M J Kelley
District Solicitor
01243 534656
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From: JOANNE BROWN [mailto:wwpc@redhouse100.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 10 June 2009 22:20
To: Mike Kelley
Subject: RE: Working Parties of West Wittering Parish Council

Dear Mike,

 

At the outset, I need to make you aware that the Council habitually uses the term 'Working Party' although this covers a number of arrangements by which the Council undertakes its activities.  In fact some of the Working Parties do not meet at all.  The arrangements range from input to the management of the Council assets without meetings which could be weekly (eg inspection of footpaths, open spaces and lighting, allotments, Sportsfield, Snowhill), occasional meetings to assist with the development of new initiatives (eg communications which is considering the Council’s website arrangements) through to occasional attendance by members at meetings of external bodies (eg emergency planning, twinning) where the Council needs or wishes to maintain a presence. 

 

The Parish Council has agreed the following Working Parties and representation on outside bodies for the year 09/10: 

 

Footpaths and Open Spaces                                        

            Allotments                                                                    

            Sportsfield Management and Millennium Meadow                      

Footway Lighting                                                          

            Emergency Planning                                                    

            Transport                                                                     

            Poor Sevens Trustee                                                   

            Tree Warden

            Snowhill                                                                       

            Finance                                                                       

            Twinning                                                                                  

            Coastal Defence                                                                                   

            Communication        

 

Emergency Planning is not a formalised Working Party.  One member has agreed to attend any meetings and pass on any information from the EA regarding flood warnings.

 

Transport is not a formalised Working Party as such but consists of one or two members who if asked could attend any meeting of partner organisations to discuss local transport.

 

The Poor Sevens trustee is a nominated member who sits as a member of a local charity.

 

The Tree Warden is a nominated member who checks the Council owned trees once a year as part of risk management and reports any problems to the Council if identified. In the past the Tree Warden has also organised tree planting and maintenance when asked to do so by the Council.

 

The Coastal Defence is not a formalised Working Party but representation on the East Head Coastal Defence Advisory Group set up by the EA in response to the Coastal Defence Strategy.

 

It might be useful if I give you some recent examples of how the arrangements used by the Council help it operate effectively.

 

The Council recently debated the redecoration of the Pavilion. The Sportsfield Working Party was asked to assist with the process and this was done by one of the members who met prospective contractors at the pavilion  in order to show them around explain. No recommendation was made by the WP and the quotes for the work were returned to me and put before the whole Council for a decision.

 

The beach at Snowhill requires maintenance and replenishment over time.  The Council has asked the Snowhill Working Party to inspect the beach and report back on how it is looking. The Council will then debate how much shingle is required as part of the beach maintenance. Another example is that dinghies are often left abandoned on the beach. Recently one of the members of the WP was asked to obtain details of a particular boat so that the owner could be traced.  

 

If a member of the public was interested in applying for an allotment a member of the Working Party will arrange to meet the applicant at the allotments and show them round the site.  

 

I could give many more examples where the Council will debate a matter and then ask for a member or members to obtain further information or to look at a particular matter and report back to the Council. Because of the number and size of the assets that this Council manages the Working Parties are organised to facilitate and assist with management when requested by the Council. 

 

Working Parties are ad hoc arrangements and there are no specified terms of reference for any Working Party.  Working Parties are not standing committees of the Council and only operate when requested by the Council. They never make decisions on behalf of the Council nor do they have any powers to determine policy issues. Recommendations are not made unless specifically requested by the Council ( and this request would be minuted) which then would be reported orally at Council meetings.  Whilst they do not meet in public, it should be noted that the Council is committed to making all decisions in public at its monthly meetings so that there can be no question as to the openness of its processes.

 

The composition of each Working Party is agreed and minuted at the Council's annual meeting in May and seeks to reflect members preferences and interests in the Council’s activities.    The publication of a list of members of each Working Party allows the public to know who the key contacts are and makes the public aware of the work that members do for them.  I must stress that any member can attend and take on work of any Working Party at any time which allows all members to participate if they so chose.

 

In the past, the Finance and General Purposes Working Party met around four times annually and I was often in attendance depending on the matters to be discussed.  I used to produce an informal agenda to assist the Chairman to facilitate the discussion (eg ideas for the next year’s budget). I sometimes did produce notes from the meeting which were used by the Chairman in briefing members at Council meetings.  However following a review of Council procedures and Working Parties in 2008, members agreed to set up a Finance Working Party only, which to date has not met, but has recently been asked by the Council to obtain information regarding a remuneration package for the Clerk.  The decision about this will be a decision of the Council and not of the Working Party. Following this review, Planning is now dealt with as an open session at the beginning of every Council meeting, instead of in Working Party.

 

At the Council’s meetings, a member of the Working Party will be invited to report to members and the Council might be required to take decisions on the back of this. In my experience there is no evidence to show that Working Parties have been used to determine decisions before being taken to the Council and no member of the Council has sought to railroad through any particular decision.

 

The Council is a small seaside parish and is mindful of the cost of administration for the electorate. You will be aware that I am its only employee.  When the Council reviewed its procedures last year members did not wish to increase the Council’s administrative costs. It was felt at that time that any additional standing or advisory committees would require an increase in paid hours to further manage the meetings. The way the Council uses Working Parties reduces the costs of the Council's administration as most members are willing to support the Council through the giving of more of their time for free.     

                                                        

I trust that this information makes the situation clear with regard as to how the Council operates. The Council as a whole reviewed its procedures last year and has confirmed at its meeting on 7 May 2009 that it wishes to continue to operate without standing committees

 

Regards.  Joanne

 

 


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FOI request

Dear David,

 

Further to my e mail dated 12th June 2006 I confirm that there will not be any charge for providing the information requested.

 

I am currently collating this and will contact you again when it is to hand.

 

Regards

 

Joanne

Friday, 12 June 2009

RE: FOI request

Dear David

My understanding is, based on the guidance set out by the ICO, as follows:

There is no ‘flat rate’ fee to receive information and in many cases the information will be provided to you free of charge.

An authority can refuse a request if it estimates that it will cost them in excess of the appropriate cost limit to fulfill your request. The limit is £600 for central government and Parliament and £450 for other public authorities.

Where the limit is not exceeded, the only charges that can be passed to you are those associated with providing the information, for example photocopying and postage. These are collectively known as disbursements.

An authority may be willing to provide the information even where the cost exceeds the limit if you are willing to pay the full costs in dealing with the request. They can also decide to provide the information free of charge, despite the application of the appropriate limit if they wish.

I will check with the Council to ask what it wishes to do about charges and will advise you as soon as possible.

It is also my understanding that when making a request you can state a preference of how you want the information communicated to you. In order to clarify this I spoke to the ICO today and was advised that there is nothing in the FOI Act that compels the provider of information to reply to an address where it cannot be confirmed that you are the recipient. You can of course choose to publicise the information supplied yourself.

Regards

Joanne

 

 

 


From: David Hopson [mailto:nunnington@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 June 2009 17:31
To: JOANNE BROWN
Cc: billbuckland; BillBuckland; bobhutton; dermotwright; jimrobertson; keithmartin; richardshrubb; stevecolwell; TrevorTupper; JOYCEGRIFFITH; martindaws-chew; PieterMontyn; PeterJones; WarrenTayler; steve@rookwoodproducts.talktalk.net; SteveColwell; TrevorLeggo
Subject: Re: FOI request

 

Without Prejudice ...

 

You may find the following links useful

 

  1. http://www.ico.gov.uk/Global/faqs/freedom_of_information_act_for_the_public.aspx#fA48D7E50-37A4-44EB-8E70-FF3919B14A27 - the information commissioner's take on charging.
  2. And this one from the Campaign for Freedom of Information http://www.cfoi.org.uk/pdf/foi_guide.pdf

 

And this from the Act

 

Means by which communication to be made.

11. (1) Where, on making his request for information, the applicant expresses a preference

for communication by any one or more of the following means, namely-

(a) the provision to the applicant of a copy of the information in permanent form or

in another form acceptable to the applicant,

(b) the provision to the applicant of a reasonable opportunity to inspect a record

containing the information, and

(c) the provision to the applicant of a digest or summary of the information in

permanent form or in another form acceptable to the applicant,

 

the public authority shall so far as reasonably practicable give effect to that preference.

(my emphasis)

 

 

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2009/6/12 JOANNE BROWN <wwpc@redhouse100.freeserve.co.uk>

Dear David,

 

Thank you for your e mail.

 

The deadline for this information to be given to you is 20 working days (not 28 as I stated earlier) starting the day after the request was received, which I make 9th July. I will therefore ensure the information requested is sent to you by this date.

 

I am not aware of anything in the Act which compels the Council to reply to a web site instead of to the applicant. I only have to be sure that the address that I use is the person making the request. As you have replied to my e mail its clear I do have the right person.

 

You have asked for a list of any paper based correspondence (including date, name of correspondent, and whether sent or received) relating or referring to the same meeting.

 

Please note no such list exists so I cannot send you it.

 

The Council is entitled to make a charge for FOI requests and I will let you know what this charge will be after discussion with the Council.

 

Regards

 

Joanne

 

 

 

 

 


From: David Hopson [mailto:nunnington@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 June 2009 14:26
To: JOANNE BROWN
Cc: billbuckland; BillBuckland; bobhutton; dermotwright; jimrobertson; keithmartin; richardshrubb; stevecolwell; TrevorTupper; JOYCEGRIFFITH; martindaws-chew; PieterMontyn; PeterJones; WarrenTayler; steve@rookwoodproducts.talktalk.net; SteveColwell; TrevorLeggo
Subject: Re: FOI request

 

Dear Joanne

 

Please note that the request to which I believe you refer has been made in the name of David Hopson through www.whatdotheyknow.com. Responses and replies should be made to the address in the email which notified you of the request. If you do not do this, the public record will show that WWPC has failed to respond to the request. Persons making FOI requests are entitled to specify the address they wish to use for correspondence, and that address may be an email address.

 

As a vehicle through which to make requests, whatdotheyknow.com allows the public to be confident that the correspondence and information which they publish in respect of an FOI request has not been subject to modification or editing by anyone. In the current circumstances I believe it is essential that nobody should be in a position to question whether or not documentary evidence has been altered.

 

wbw

 

David

 

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2009/6/12 JOANNE BROWN <wwpc@redhouse100.freeserve.co.uk>

Dear David

 

I acknowledge receipt of your FOI request.

 

I will collate the information you require and let you have this within the 28 day deadline.

 

Regards

 

Joanne